I find this newsletter to be one of the most informative and enjoyable to read.
Particularly like this comparison: "Joy (chara), on the other hand, is seen as an active, rational emotion that arises from living in accordance with nature and virtue. It's a byproduct of wise and virtuous actions, of making correct judgments, and of living in harmony with one's rational nature. Unlike pleasure, joy is not dependent on external circumstances or physical sensations. It's more about an inner state of contentment and satisfaction that comes from living a good life."
Informative, captivating conversation. And for the uninitiated like me another great expostion on Stoicism. I read somewhere, long ago, it is only in later life that humans begin to experience the emotion of true joy.
I'm happy to hear that, Paul :-) I think, the Stoic position would be that every human being has the capacity to experience true joy - but that for most of us that experience is "polluted" by our experience of fear, anger, lust etc. The goal is to minimize that pollution. In modern psychology, ACT (Acceptance and Commitance Therapy) thinks in very similar terms.
I find this newsletter to be one of the most informative and enjoyable to read.
Particularly like this comparison: "Joy (chara), on the other hand, is seen as an active, rational emotion that arises from living in accordance with nature and virtue. It's a byproduct of wise and virtuous actions, of making correct judgments, and of living in harmony with one's rational nature. Unlike pleasure, joy is not dependent on external circumstances or physical sensations. It's more about an inner state of contentment and satisfaction that comes from living a good life."
Thank you, dear Nat 😊 Those words mean a lot to me!
I’m learning something here as this is an area I’ve very like knowledge of. I know who them stoics were but that was it.
I bet you’re learning too?
Absolutely 😎
Informative, captivating conversation. And for the uninitiated like me another great expostion on Stoicism. I read somewhere, long ago, it is only in later life that humans begin to experience the emotion of true joy.
*exposition*
I'm happy to hear that, Paul :-) I think, the Stoic position would be that every human being has the capacity to experience true joy - but that for most of us that experience is "polluted" by our experience of fear, anger, lust etc. The goal is to minimize that pollution. In modern psychology, ACT (Acceptance and Commitance Therapy) thinks in very similar terms.
More about joy vs pleasure here: https://janniklindquist.substack.com/p/is-the-cause-of-all-our-sorrows-our